
Pnina: certified kosher pies
There’s some strange paranoia at work over at the Jewish Israel site, whose writers seem rather pie-ased against the Messianic Jews.
Read Jewish Israel’s take on Pnina Konforti who runs Pnina Pie. Jewish Israel seems to interact with RPP’s post on the difference between Messianic Jews who believe that Yeshua is the Messiah, and Jews for Jesus missionaries, opining that, ‘jews for jesus tends to be more rigid in their Christian doctrine (Baptist or Southern Baptist affiliated) and many adherents to this Christian sect would not neccesarily be considered politically “pro-Israel” or “Christian zionist”. Many of the “messianic” groups are politically “pro-Israel” and are backed by “Christian zionist” evangelical organizations and congregations.’
Is this true? Clearly not – Messianic Jews have all different types of beliefs. Moreover, there are many Messianic Jews that have hostile relations with the more political Christian Zionist groups, who shun Messianic Jews in order to keep friendly relations with certain anti-Messianic ultra-Orthodox groups. Messianic Jews as individuals do not recieve financial backing from anyone, most Messianic Jews work to earn their crust, or pie, if they are allowed to.
Messianic Jewish organisations and groups may receive financial backing from supporters around the world, although an increasingly large number are financially independent. It is worth noting that there are many Jewish groups in Israel which have nothing to do with Yeshua but are nevertheless financially supported by Christian Zionist money. Some Christian groups have even signed voluntary “evangelism-gagging-orders” so that Israeli groups are able to accept their support! Moreover the Jews for Jesus organisation are explicitly pro-Israel (its director believes, for example, that God is a Zionist).
It’s clear that Jewish Israel’s contributors don’t really know the first thing about the diversity of Messianic Jews around the world - most Messianic Jews are not missionaries or workers for Jews for Jesus, but nevermind – just stick to pie in the sky theories, and don’t let the truth get in the way of a good slander.
There are many a non-Jewish chef in kosher restaraunts around the world. So is the point that Messianic Jews shouldn’t be trusted to keep kashrut? If that’s true, then the attempts to boycott Pnina Pie should have been effective. But they weren’t, because 1) Pnina clearly makes good pies and 2) Israelis have more common sense. But, as Jewish Israel can’t trust Israelis to stay away from Pnina Pie when the lady’s opponents put up big posters, the law must be enlisted to take away her kashrut license, but now the law is on the side of good pies they have to grumble.
It’s not that Jewish Israel don’t trust Messianic Jews. They don’t trust the Israeli public.
Posted by Yeze.

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July 3, 2009 at 2:34 pm
alfaarooq1
By the way are you Jew or Christian? I’d like to share with you what the Almighty Allah Says about Jews and Christians in the Holy Quran, in addition to this here’s a sneak preview of the letter sent to the Vatican and MJO by Al-Faarooq, you getting this before the Media gets it so guess you’re lucky… see below:
In the name of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful
Dear Brethren in the faith of the One Lord, our King the Almighty Allah (Eloah), the Incomparably Great, Most Holy, Most High I greet you with Peace.
As’Salaamu Alaikum (Shalom) In the name of His Highest who is the sole Owner of all the Most Holy and Most Beautiful Names, Attributes/ Titles our Lord the Creator.
I wish this letter, and open invitation receives you in the best of health.
It is our common goal in faith to uphold all that is good and forbid all that is evil, this letter comes as a request for your cooperation in the common goals we share.
As religious leaders, as dedicated believers and scholars of the Holy Scriptures from our Lord, as His agents on Earth it is our duty to protect, assist and guide mankind to that which is good.
The world we live in today is filled with corruption, oppression and an evil that is flourishing amongst our people. It is our duty as religious leaders to uphold and encourage the common good of mankind. The problems we face in our world today is with substance abuse such as drugs, alcohol and a variety of un-Khosher (Haraam) things, unlawful sexual relations before marriage, sodomy and racial discrimination amongst our people. Our Creator has created only one race in mankind and that is the Human race, He divided us into many beautiful nations so we may know each other. Having said this I would like for us to work towards a common good and fight against all evils in unity as we await the coming of the Messiah, this, a token of our preparation for the End.
For the Almighty Allah Says in the Holy Quran: Q2:62 “Those who believe (The Muslims) and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabaeans whoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.”, Q2:63 “And remember O Children of Israel, when We (Allah) have made a covenant with you and caused the Mount to tower above you, (saying): Hold fast that which We (Allah) have given you, and remember that which is therein, that ye may ward off evil.”
The Almighty Allah says in the Holy Quran: Q5:44 “Lo! We did reveal the Torah, wherein there is guidance and a light, by which the Prophets who surrender to His will judge (rule) the Jews, and the rabbis and the priests (judged) by such of Allah’s Scripture as they were bidden to observe, and thereunto were they witness. So fear not mankind, but Fear Me. And batter not My revelations for a little gain. Whose judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are disbelievers. Q5:45 “Whoso judge not by that which Allah hath revealed: such as wrongdoers.” Q5:46 “We bestowed on him (Eesa / Jesus) the Gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was revealed before it the Torah a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off evil.” Q5:47 “Let the people of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed; such are evil livers.” Q5:48 “And unto thee (Muslims) We (Allah) revealed the Scripture with the truth, confirming whatever Scripture was before it, and a watcher over it. So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires away from the truth which hath come unto thee. For each We (Allah) have appointed a Shariah (divine law) and a traced out way. Had Allah willed He could have made you one community. But that He may try you by that which He hath given you. (He hath made you as ye are) So vie one with another in good works. Unto Allah ye will return, and He will then inform you of that wherein ye differ.”
O People of the Scripture lend me an observant ear, we find in our midst today the evil doers promoting a law called democracy, for all they do and command by is said in the name of democracy and not in the Name of our Lord, in their evil system of law religion have no right to judge, in their system the religious head have been removed from the political scene. In this system called democracy the evils of corruption, sodomy, un-lawful sexual relations, theft and usury thrive as it feeds of the oppressed and innocent people. O people of the Scripture let us unite in the common good to ward of evil and stand united against all evils such as sodomism, oppression, corruption etc… and take back the Laws (Shariah) of Scripture, let us restore our family values and shift the world towards peace and a better understanding of all mankind in its beautiful diversity. O people of the Scripture the Shariah (Divine Laws) of the Almighty is complete and needs no adjustment, for it is made clear, it is free from any need for amendment.
For our Lord says: “Whose judgeth not by that which Allah (Eloah) hath revealed: such are disbelievers.”
As Muslims we believe in Allah and the Holy Quran revealed unto us, we believe in His Angels, His Prophets and all that revealed to them, some of which to mention are (the Zabur, Torah, Injeel “Gospels of the Bible”, and the completion of all that have gone before the Holy Quran), and we believe in the Last Day. We are Muslims (People who surrender to His will)
We await, and look forward to your response.
May the Almighty Allah guide us all.
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July 3, 2009 at 11:13 pm
yeze
Alfaarooq1, I’m a Messianic Jew so I believe Yeshua (Isa/Jesus) is Messiah not just of Jews but of everyone. I’m both Jew and Christian. You can see what we’re all about here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sEBAldf4L0.